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  • Hi Jatsko, for starters, I love all the artwork you've created in the past for the Wiki. (I might have said this to you earlier this year...)  ANYWAY, the issue at hand is that I have a few relevant things to add to the Submachine 32 Chambers page, and I am instantly getting the popup message:

    NOTE: This page has been protected so that only established, registered users can edit it.

    Why is this? I have been a registered member since Jan/2013...(two months shy of 5 years) and although I have not made tens of thousands of edits like you, I definitely do know how to edit properly without issue. Today, I saw that the page for Sub32 has a few things that could be included on it, I was/am in the mood to do a little work on our Wiki as I am way overdue in contributing, and now I'm kinda feeling like an outsider when I have always felt at home on this Submachine Wiki. Plus, I know that you guys scan over everything that members add or change anyway, so why does this page need to be "protected" from the rest of us? I am not angry, by any means; so please don't take this as a nasty message to you...  I am just saddened and disappointed that this occurs on an older game/wiki-page such as this one. (I could understand if maybe it was for an upcoming game and you didn't want any misinformation posted, but...Sub32?)
    As for me, I play or create something Submachine daily...since 2007-ish. (And someone like you knows that I am NOT exaggerating with this comment. haha)  My point is, I DO know my Submachine stuff, so I am left wondering...what exactly MAKES a member be considered "established"? Thanks for any help Jatsko, and KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

    (You can reply here or at SubnetExplorers@gmail.com)

    SDRanger

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    • Hi SD, is this message popping up as soon as you click "Edit" for the page? Because it happens for me as well. Did you actually try publishing your edits?

      All of the game pages have protections on them since they are considered more important enough that they should be protected from anyone who's not logged in and wants to make spam edits. However the level of protection is low enough that as long as you're signed into an account, you should have no problem editing the pages. Either way, the note will pop up when you go to edit BUT that doesn't necessarily mean you're blocked from editing. Try making your edits and publishing them, and if they don't go through, make sure to let me know because then there's a deeper issue.

      Rest assured that no one has taken any action against you specifically in this case to make sure you can't edit. These protections were actually put in place back in 2011 by admins around way before I was.

      Hope this works out for you!

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    • Incredible!  Last night after I clicked the “X” in the corner of the initial “Editing Pop-Up”, making it vanish…none of the editing buttons were lit up. (ie the B for bold, “I” for italics, insert an image, insert bullets, etc.) This happened repeatedly so I came to the conclusion that I wasn’t able or allowed to edit. And yes, I had initially typed in a few words just to see if that triggered anything…aaand nope!  I attempted to edit at LEAST 6 times, closing out Firefox a couple of times, too. I’m just like anybody else, I tried all kinds of stuff before resorting to contacting “Tech Support”.…in this case, that would be you. haha
      Anyway, all that being said, the problem I was having is completely nonexistent now! Editing capabilities are now clearly active for me for Sub32, and I assume all other game pages will behave the same for me now as well.
      OH! By the way, if it’s worth anything, after stomping my feet at the editing thing and writing you, I noticed that my Profile page was full of cobwebs. I composed my new text in MS Word as always, and about an hour later I pasted the new text right into my profile… I updated my avatar as well.
      Then it hit me: “I just edited something!” So, I went back to Sub32…and sadly, as was the case earlier, none of the editing buttons would light up for me on that page. I then just called it a night.
      NOW, today, everything is behaving as it should on my end. Editing buttons are all lit up for me on Sub32’s page now. I don’t know WHAT could have possibly been going on last night. (BTW, I leave my computer on 24/7/365, so I didn’t “reboot”, resulting in things being put back in order or anything.)
      I should mention that I seriously don’t recall ever getting the Editing Pop-Up message in years past, and I’ve edited a few actual game pages here and there if I recall. Maybe I had a turbo-popup blocker back then or something…
      None of it makes logical sense, so I suppose it will just remain a mystery…
      Anyway, THANKS for clearing up all of the normal up for me. Your message did answer a few questions that I’d had in the back of my mind, but more than anything, I feel welcome here again.
      (Not being ‘mushy” here, but the welcome thing is important to me. Submachine is a huge part of…well, me.)
      Keep up the stellar work, buddy!
      SDRanger

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  • I just posted a theory page onto this wiki page yesterday. I was wondering if you could put it with the other 316 theories.

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  • Do you want something like:

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     ?

    If so, the real CSS arrangement is:

    body {
        background: #666666 url(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/submachine/images/4/48/Custom_wiki_background.png/revision/latest?cb=20170714190957) !important;
        background-repeat: no-repeat !important;
        background-size: 100% !important;
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  • i'm just asking out of curiosity... why you changed the names of gzb and thb back.

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  • cool changes

    .. :P

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  • Hey, JATSKO! This is pretty random, but having been away from the Wiki for awhile until just recently, I have been checking out pages at leisure...(not just out of necessity!) ;) Anyway, I can REALLY see the improvement in overall quality of the pages since your arrival, notably the artwork "polishing". The one that struck me the most was the closing artwork in Sub10: The Exit, (above ground, with camels) and it's "minor edits" as you modestly labeled them. FANTASTIC WORK! Over the past 10 years I have done my own graphics "edits" for my own personal Submachine - curiosity creations, (i.e. Long before it was posted on Wiki, my Wanting to know what the massive vertical statue at the bottom of Sub 9's Temple actually looked like, as the player only sees about 1/7 of it at any given time during the scrolling sequence...PLUS the trademark Submachine shading around the edges to constantly deal with!) ...So I completely realize and totally appreciate what a tremendous effort that HAD to have been, and seriously admired it for a good 5 minutes, for whatever that's worth! So glad to have you as Admin/Beaur, and fantastic that you are as passionate as I would be if I had the time to be an Admin!

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    • Well, it was what it was. I'm just providing an up-to-date source of information for people; if it means I have to go to a bit of a length to compile a picture, so be it. I'm glad you appreciate it!

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  • Again a little message from that new member of the Submachine Wiki Exploration Team. I don't think it's useful to again fill this message with references like resin fills the left part of the Temple, so I won't do that again this time.

    In one of your videos or streams (please keep 'em coming, Jatsko), you mentioned that you're studying literature. Probably it was in BTM #3, my favorite BTM till now. Yeah, in that video, you deepened out the chiastic structure in the Submachine series. You were watching Submachine from a literary perspective.

    I dug that. That was a great thing you did there.

    Initially, when a friend of mine showed me Submachine 6 short after its release, we didn't care a lot about the storyline. Our English probably wasn't good enough back, and our main goal was to finish the game. Around the release of Sub10, I got interested in Submachine again after playing it barely for some years. Around that time I found your YouTube channel too, by the way (I started watching your Submachine Weekend). After Sub10's release and the gigantic amount of locations and informations it involved, I got more and more interested in the actual story behind it. I started to realize (mostly by investigating the Wiki and re-reading the Notes) what a great job Mateusz Skutnik had done. I started to enjoy Submachine at a different "level", in a different way.

    And now I ask you, Professor in Submachinistry Jatsko, to express your some more views of Submachine as a literary work of art, as someone who knows a lot about literature. It's fascinating how a video game contains so much story, so much deepness to it, and so much to discover. Every answer adds three questions to our list. 

    What makes Submachine a game such an extraordinarily prosaic game in the point-and-click genre? 

    Disclaimer: I'm expressing a desire. This is of course not meant to appear compelling.

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    • Hi, thanks for the post. I guess I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you looking for me to try to write the Submachine plot out as an actual literary work or did you want me to discuss the plot more from a literary standpoint? Let me know. I should also clear up that I'm not studying literature at all; it's just something that catches my interest from time to time.

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    • @Jatsko

      "did you want me to discuss the plot more from a literary standpoint?"

      I meant this :)

      (I thought you had told somewhere in BTM 3 that you were studying literature. Apparently I was wrong. I've re-watched the first few minutes of it and couldn't find it).

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    • Jatsko wrote:
      Hi, thanks for the post. I guess I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you looking for me to try to write the Submachine plot out as an actual literary work or did you want me to discuss the plot more from a literary standpoint? Let me know. I should also clear up that I'm not studying literature at all; it's just something that catches my interest from time to time.

      Not sure whether you have seen my presvious answer.

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    • If I find something to talk about, then most likely. Not sure what else to extract from it fom a literary standpoint though.

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  • Hi Jatsko, I was just wondering if you could change the status of my theory to "unvoted", as I have finally completed it. 

    Thanks, 

    808

    (P.S, can I possibly become an administator on the wiki, I'd really like to know your thoughts)

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    • Edit another 945 Pages, and then ask him again. 

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    • I don't see any evidence of you having made changes to it since January 27th. However if you say it is complete, then of course I'll change it.

      Keep these things in mind: 1) You can add more to your theory any time you want, and you can also change the status itself between unvoted and reserved. The only time a status change is not allowed is when a theory has been voted on. New theories can be manipulated by the author as much as possible :D

      2) This is just a general thought: I know I've been making a crap-ton of edits lately, but that shouldn't intimidate you from making your own. I'm not saying that I think you're holding back; just remember to feel free to edit whatever you think needs to be edited.

      That being said, since I understand you're interested in serving this Wiki, there are a lot of things you should keep in mind when asking about the admin situation. First, people are not automatically qualified for adminship after reaching a certain amount of edits (btw, HallMonitor4, welcome to the wiki!).

      What matters is your intent for the position, what the Wiki needs right now, and the experience you're bringing to the table. So, just to make sure you're clear, let me talk about each of these points.

      Your intent. What is it that makes you want to run for the position? What goals do you hope to achieve that you can not by being a regular user? As the previous active admin did for me, I will ask you to write a statement with your goals. For more information on what exactly an admin does, look at http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Administrators'_how-to_guide , which gives a good list of an admin's power and, in tandem, responsibilities.

      The Wiki's needs. The Wiki has two active admins right now, me and Vortex. Obviously I'm much more active than Vortex is, but he is still available on backup. Also - again, looking at who edits the Wiki - it's mostly me making edits that are both admin-specific, but most are edits that anyone can do. I just happen to make time to constantly take care of them. When it comes to admin powers, though, I actually don't do that much. I'd say about 90% of the stuff I actively do on the Wiki is stuff anyone can do without adminship. If you were to take a general snapshot of the Wiki right now, you'll notice that you have a very small group of regular people making edits (10 might be stretching it), and two of those people are admins. That means there is already enough administrative power as is to serve a community of that size. So keep all this in mind.

      Your skills. This is really similar to the first point, but there are some additional things to be aware of here. This is something to really think about: what can you bring to the table that the Wiki needs? What makes you eligible for a boost in authority? This is more than just stating what you want to do as an admin; this deals with how Vortex and I know that you are someone we can give this power to.

      So you asked for my thoughts; those are it. It might have been a bit more than you were expecting, but it's what the old highly-active admin (Mordikai Wartwunson) told me to consider when I applied for the position. Take some time to think about it, and if you still want to pursue it, let me know with you thoughts and intentions!

      On an end note, I think I will make a YouTube video describing my position on the Wiki, especially since a few more users have started being active on here. I'll probably explain why I do what I do, the power I have, and how new users can feel at home on the SubWiki. It'll do me some good to cross-check my power and look at it from a position where I'm actually reviewing it and not utilizing it all the time. So thanks for bringing up your question for this reason also :D

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    • Thank you for the detailed response! I understand that my position on this wiki has been very small when compared to others, and I certainly have no problem in contributing more before bringing up admin stuff until then. Personally, I think I have to learn a lot about the editing process, and doing so by devoting more time into the wiki. I aprecciate the time, and effort you put into this site, and the information you provide for the fandom. That being said, I love the submachine franchise, and would like to contribute to it in any way possible. I believe only in time, and effort I can truly prove I am eligible for an administrator position. 

      Thanks again for your respone,

      808

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  • File:443-Laser Tomb II (Desktop 1).png
    Made this wallpaper!

    It's very, very big, by the way. Yay for (hacking the browser and pretending to be) zooming in on Flash elements!

    PS I also made a version with the drill tower thing on the left .

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  • I'm not super active anymore, so it's time I passed the torch (or wisdom gem or karma stabilizer or whatever). You'll be able to appoint new admins and bureaucrats.

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    • Sure. Thanks for all the work you've put in; you've offered a lot of good structural ideas and changes. I accept :D

      Have a good one!

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